The Future of the Human Race.

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Originally Posted by Mhysa Bond

I'd watch the labeling game, people find that really annoying. Coming from firsthand experience. Also it betrays too much emphasis on superficial judgment...(which you have convinced yourself is actually the truth)

Ditto I disagree with your labeling of what scientists/I think/do, pardon me for trying to correct what I believe to be mislabeling and claims without evidence. I gave examples for why I believe you to be a direct realist, where is your reasoning for your claims, and what do you think i've convinced myself of?
Without mind-melding how is it possible to talk about anything without labeling?

Originally Posted by Mhysa Bond

To do this you will have to extend yourself outside the strict physical realms of science and philosophical labeling you are used to...All of them dabbled in metaphysics and the occult and it seems to me that you somehow see yourself above even trying to understand these concepts.

What concepts?
"The primary/secondary quality distinction is a conceptual distinction in epistemology and metaphysics, concerning the nature of reality"

Originally Posted by The World In Your Head - Lehar

Rather than examining the brain and nervous system to see what they tell us about the mind, this book begins with an examination of conscious experience to see what it can tell us about the brain.

Through this analysis, the first and most obvious observation is that consciousness appears as a volumetric spatial void, containing colored objects and surfaces. This reveals that the representation in the brain takes the form of an explicit volumetric spatial model of external reality. The world we see around us therefore is not the real world itself, but merely a miniature virtual-reality replica of that world in an internal representation. In fact the phenomena of dreams and hallucinations clearly demonstrate the capacity of the brain to construct complete virtual worlds even in the absence of sensory input. Perception is therefore somewhat like a guided hallucination, based on sensory stimulation.

This insight allows us to examine the world of visual experience not as scientists exploring the external world, but as perceptual scientists examining a rich and complex internal representation. This unique approach to investigating mental function has implications in a wide variety of related fields, including the nature of language and abstract thought, motor control and behavior—as well as to the world of music, art, and dance, showing how the patterns of regularity and periodicity in space and time apparent in those aesthetic domains reflect the periodic basis set of the underlying harmonic resonance representation in the brain.

Is this too sciencey/labely for ya? I thought this was the sort of thing you're in to.

Q : When awake/dreaming/meditating/druggy loser do you think you ever have access to the "real world" or "reality"?

goal/end game

to find out interesting things? consciousness engineering? fabulously wealthy sexy guy on boat?